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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Enve 3.4 Review & Tubular vs. Clincher Considerations

We've had a lot of the 3.4's come through the door here at Glory and I have had the good fortune to ride both the clincher and tubular as well as the Chris King, DT Swiss Standard and DT Swiss Straight pull versions. If you look around online for feedback on the ride of the 3.4's no doubt you have seen a lot of very positive reviews. There is good reason for this, the Enve 3.4 is in my experience quite possibly the most advanced carbon wheel on the market and because of its weight, strength and ability to be customized it could also be the most versatile wheel set available.




What's so special about the 3.4
Enve have been making carbon components for some time and the Smart Systems rims were developed using a manufacture process Enve has refine over some years and fused with the high level engineering knowledge of Formula1 guru Simon Smart. Rims are front and rear specific, the shapes are intended to be aero in all conditions and give the rider the perfect combination of speed and control.

How do they ride.
Smooth, fast and light yet durable enough to use everyday. The only reason not to use the 3.4's as your only wheel is because you don't want to spoil yourself. The design of the 3.4 is such that the rear wheel is stiffer because of the deeper rim and the front wheel has more control because of it's shallower wider profile, which is ideal in all conditions. 
Braking is smooth as any carbon rim we have ever used and Enve provide carbon specific pads with the wheels. These wear pretty fast but so it is with all new carbon pads.
At 180lbs I felt the 3.4's were plenty stiff for me and at (1426g clincher, 1258g tubular) they come in really light for how stiff and sure they ride. 


Seen here with Chris King R45 blue hub

Exactly what are the 3.4 build options.
Rims come in tubular or clincher and the wheels come standard with Dt Swiss 240s hubs. We often built these in-house with the new Dt Swiss 240s straight pull hub because straight pull builds up a little stiffer and without the j-bend spokes are theoretically stronger. Chris King R45 Standard or Ceramic are an option as well and these hubs come in a variety of colors. Spokes can be silver, black or white and nipples are internal so no options there. 

How do I make my decision.
Between tubular and clincher it's a real talking point here in the office but the short story is such. 
Racing only - tubular (lighter weight, better acceleration but not as convenient)
Racing/fast rides - clincher(more convenience and wider more cost effective tire selection)
The ride feels almost identical with a slight advantage to the tubular for it's lighter weight and more responsive feeling tires. Extreme braking while descending and crit racing seems more suited to the tubular than the clincher rim. For the record we are yet to hear of any Enve Smart rim failures under extreme braking but in theory the tubular is safer in this regard.
Hubs don't really make the wheels feel much different other than the marginal gain of knowing you have either DT or King Ceramic bearings - Stiffness and control felt identical to me when swapping between the DT and King wheels. 

Where is best to buy?
Custom built with DT 180 hub and white spokes
Glory Cycles no doubt about it, give us a call or shoot us an email and we will go over options and identify whats best for you and your dream machine. 


On this Look 695 these tubular 3.4's had the bike come in under 14lbs
For a classic look silver spokes and tan wall tubulars



5 comments:

Tom said...

I have one of the first set of Glory built 3,4 tubulars,DT Swiss 240 hubs and the straight pull spokes. The wheels are rock solid having unintentionally ridden on some poor SC roads. They are perfectly true and accelerate well. The ride quality is great so I would rate these Enve 3, 4 with an A+, including the build quality from the boys at Glory. As a side note, my Dogma think 2, with Record 11 s and pedals weighs in at 15.05 pounds. TF

Lee Turner said...

They're good wheels as I have had them BUT they are not on the same level as Campagnolo Bora, not even close.

Anonymous said...

Lee Tuner,

Why? I am curious since I am looking to buy a new set of wheels. thx!

Stevelor5ca said...

I have a set of the clinchers. I am 250lbs and these wells don't flex, do not go out of true and spin up fast and hold there speed very well. Fastest Wellsite have had to date.i had some Reynolds wheels (32's) and 46's before getting these at the end of last year ANSI must say these are the best period. I am running the king hubs. I am a bigger rider and these wheels have made me faster and very confident that I don't feel any flex and the breaking is better than the Reynolds in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

These do nothing that a quality clincher like the Dura Ace C24 won't do.....and at 1/3 the price. In addition, the DA C24's don't exhibit the poor wet weather braking of carbon, nor the hot spot delamination potential of carbon wheels on long descents.

Carbon wheels like Enve are good for fashion, poor for value.


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